Just heard on NPR that for the first time ever smoking is baennd at Oktoberfest. This has organizers worried; without the stench of cigarette smoke to cover up the other odors ' ( urine, vomit) people will really be able to smell Oktoberfest in all it's, uh, glory. Mmmmm . Pretty much killed my desire to make that trip. You guys should grow hops. We' ve started growing our own in our little backyard (central Mass . ). We'll homebrew with them sometime this fall- it's our first year of any yield. Takes 3 years after planting the rhizomes to get any hops cones , but it was so worth the wait.